The Good Guise

Imagine

The 1,260 day period of prophecy that was completed by the two witnesses has an official beginning and ending, that being November 24th, 1966 and May 7th, 1970 respectively. It is only within that time period that information considered prophetic in nature was delivered to the Christian portion of the human race. However, many of the artistic efforts of John and Paul outside the bounds of that timeframe were intended to provide support for the period of prophecy. The albums Revolver and Let It Be are two examples in which this was the case as Revolver served to usher in the period of prophecy and Let it Be was created to bring the period of prophecy to a formal close.

Imagine, an album and song released by John Lennon some 16 months after the period of prophecy had ended, is a release that also proves important in terms of the period of prophecy for several reasons.

For example, John Lennon used this album as an opportunity to remind us one more time that the number 9 is an important component of the prophecies of the two witnesses. In addition, he also established once again a strong biblical tie to his artistic efforts, as the lyrics of the song Imagine can be tied back in a definitive manner to various passages and concepts found in The Bible.

In addition to these two aspects of the song Imagine, one other aspect of the song Imagine proved invaluable in terms of making progress towards understanding the biblical passages related to the two witnesses. The song Imagine was used by John Lennon to provide a profound instruction intended for those who would one day recognize that prophecy that relates directly to Revelation 12 & 13 is contained within his and Paul’s collaborative artistic efforts. This instructive aspect of the song allows us to gain a definitive understanding of Revelation 11, 12 and 13.

A question that is worth addressing at this point is,

If this song is of such great importance,
why didn’t John Lennon release the song Imagine during the period of prophecy?

There are at least two very probable answers to this question.

First, the song does not directly contain in it any prophetic value in that the anagrams that disclose the location of the tomb of Mary Magdalene do not require letters associated with any aspect of the album Imagine. Imagine should be thought of instead as being a release that serves to function as yet another one of the two witnesses’ proverbial fingers, pointing us as needed towards the proper perspective required to understand various biblical passages, especially Revelation 12 and, in turn, Revelation 11 and 13 as well.

Secondly, John Lennon held off releasing the album and song Imagine until a specific date well after the period of prophecy had ended so that he could emphasize a couple of critical components of the prophecies. First, releasing Imagine well after the period of prophecy had ended helps to further solidify the idea that a future generation was the intended audience of the prophecies delivered by the two witnesses. The order in which they released information to the Christian public was done in such a manner that a complete understanding of what they accomplished could be understood only after they had fully completed releasing everything related to the period of prophecy. If a person conceptualizes the various releases of the two witnesses as being different chapters in a book, it could be said that the chapters of the two witnesses were not released in the order that they have to be read in order to make sense of their story. In other words, the chapters of their book were released out of sequence. This is why it was impossible to see and understand in a real time manner what the two witnesses were doing. It was only after they had fully completed the period of prophecy in all regards that it became possible to understand what had taken place.

In regards to the date of its release, we know that the album Imagine was made available to the public on September 9, 1971. This release date, as were many, if not all, of the release dates of the artistic works of John and Paul, was chosen in a very deliberate manner.

Various videos of John Lennon exist in which he discusses the album Imagine. In one such video he mentions that all band members, except one, that were involved with the album Imagine were selected to participate in the making of the album in part by analyzing their names from a numerological perspective. In light of this it stands to reason that the release date of the album was potentially selected in this manner as well.

Imagine was released on September 9, 1971, or on 9-9-1971. If we start to reduce this number down in typical numerological fashion [128] we can rewrite this date as being 9-9-9, for 1+9+7+1=18, and 1+8 reduces of course down to 9. From John Lennon’s perspective, which was quite profound and artistic, he most likely considered the release date of this album not to be 9-9-1971. He most likely considered the release date of Imagine as being 9. [129]

Of course, with what is now understood about how the number 9 ties back to Revelation 13:18, [130] John Lennon had a real interest in pointing us once again to the number 9. He wanted us to be sure that our observation of the number 9 within his life and works was found in so many places that we would eventually see the frequent occurrence of the number 9 as something more than just a naturally occurring coincidental event.

It was at this time that another observation was made regarding how John Lennon consciously projected the number 9 to the world.

Since the Henry the Horse phrase found in the song Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite has already been shown to be related directly to the number 9 from many different angles, [131] and since the album Imagine was an album that was built on a numerological foundation based in part on the number 9, it seemed logical to advance the notion that John Lennon’s name must also be related to the number 9. It was hypothesized that his name surely must relate numerically to the number 9. Since John Lennon was given the name of John Winston Lennon at birth the following numerical analysis on his name was performed:

John Winston Lennon was translated in typical numerological fashion to 1685 5951265 355565, [132] but this numerical sequence reduced down to the number 1, not the number 9 as had been previously hypothesized. That his birth name reduced down to the number 1 instead of the number 9 seemed very out of place with everything else that had been concluded up to this point about his relationship to the number 9. A symmetry between the life and artistic effort of John Lennon and the number 9 had been seen up to this point to the degree that it was expected, almost required, that this same degree of symmetry should be found when looking at his name as well. Since the studying of the two witnesses had started, Paul McCartney was strongly associated with the anagrams that lead to the tomb of Mary Magdalene. At the same time John Lennon grew to be strongly associated with the number 9, a number that proves critical in respect to the identification and eventual demise of the second beast in Revelation 13. This dichotomy between the two witnesses was justified, in part, from this symmetry that had been seen in their lives and works, a symmetry that was an indication that this whole effort of understanding the two witnesses was on the correct path. Here, though, a significant numerological inconsistency had been identified and this raised some doubts regarding the validity of the progress that had been made up to this point.

The research continued, though, as the preponderance of information that had been accumulated to date that indicated John and Paul were the two witnesses was too much to ignore. Then, some months later, while focusing on the album titled The Beatles (The White Album) it was discovered that during the time period of The Beatles (The White Album) John Lennon had changed his name legally from John Winston Lennon to John Winston Ono Lennon. This name change was understood by many, and rightly so, as being John Lennon’s way to express his love for Yoko. He also saw this as an opportunity to make a personal statement against male dominance that is pervasive in this world. However, once this changing of his name was verified a return to the numerological analysis of his name took place, this time with the word Ono included, in the hope that this was what had been missing in terms of the earlier failed attempt to tie his name to the number 9.

Since it had already been determined that John Winston Lennon reduced down to the number 1, Ono was translated down to a single digit as follows:

Ono = 656, which totals 17, and 1+7 reduces down further to a single digit of 8.

Combining this 8 with the 1 from John Lennon’s birth name resulted in the number 9 being generated, as 1+8 = 9.

Now it seems that the initial inclination about John Lennon’s name having to relate numerically to the number 9 was not only correct, but that it was something that he must have felt needed to be as well for his name only became equal to the number 9 because he made it that way. In light of tying his name to the number 9 it is now possible to say that there is a very tangible explanation for his name change; he was changing the numerological value of his name from 1 to 9.

A statement that John Lennon once made during an interview seems appropriate now that it is understood what he was accomplishing with his name change:

People are always judging you,
or criticizing what you’re trying to say on one little album,
on one little song, but to me it’s a lifetime’s work.
From the boyhood paintings and poetry to when I die – it’s all part of one big production.
And I don’t have to announce that this album is part of a larger work;
if it isn’t obvious, then forget it.
[133]

It became very apparent now what John Lennon meant with that statement; his entire life was a concept work that in one manner or another could be associated to the period of prophecy. His name change is a great example of how this is the case.

The song Imagine has been interpreted by many to be an anti-religious statement. This conclusion seems to be justified at first glance since the song asks us to imagine a world with no religion. In addition, the song asks us to imagine there’s no heaven. How could anyone claim that this is a very religious song, based fully on scripture; one that supports the eventual appearance of the Establishment?

As the song was further studied it became apparent that this initial conclusion about the song being an anti-religious song was an incorrect one. This song turns out to be a very religious song, one based fully on scripture. To begin to understand how this is so, a look at the verse that asks us to imagine living a life with no possessions is a good starting point. Although this statement initially seems to be one that is more along the lines of a politically charged economic statement than along the lines of being religious in nature, it turns out that this concept of no possessions comes directly from The Bible in the book of Acts.

Acts is a unique book in The Bible in that it details how those that followed Jesus Christ lived during the time period immediately following his crucifixion. What we can hopefully agree upon is that these people were in an ideal position, in terms of time and location, to be best able to live according to the teachings of Jesus Christ because his presence was still something that these people could directly remember and relate to. In the TNIV there is a section of Acts titled, The Believers Share Their Possessions. Within that section Acts 4:32-33 states:

All the believers were one in heart and mind.
No one claimed that any of their possessions were their own,
but they shared everything they had.
With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus.
And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there was no needy person among them.

What John Lennon was telling us with this imagine no possessions line was that the human race’s current state of existence has drifted very far away from the way of life that Jesus Christ intends for each of us to live; a way of life that is accurately described in the Book of Acts. In short, the two witnesses were telling us that the organized religions of today have left the path that Jesus Christ intended them to follow. John Lennon was, in effect, mocking his current generation, or civilization, with this imagine no possessions line. He knew that since this current civilization of mankind was so far away from the lifestyle that Jesus Christ intended that it would be impossible for any of us to comprehend what it would be like to live with no possessions as those portrayed in Acts were able to. In effect, what John Lennon was saying with the line:

Imagine no possessions

was

Imagine what it would be like to live as Jesus Christ intended you to live.

The two witnesses also advance variations of this idea in other songs as well; that we, those of us alive now in the late 1900’s and beyond, are part of the final man-made iron civilization that is to be directly followed by the Establishment. When the Establishment comes, this civilization must be removed to make room for the Establishment. Knowing this, it seems that it is now possible to justify this interpretation above about this line in the song since God would not remove this final man-made civilization if it was worthy of continuing on. The removal of this current civilization in the relatively near future seems to be the most likely outcome if we choose to acknowledge the implications of the message that the two witnesses delivered while they were prophesying. [134]

John Lennon again draws from The Bible elsewhere in the song Imagine in the verse that asks us to imagine that there are no countries. He also says in this verse that we should also imagine what it would be like in a world without religion as well. This appears to be an anti-religious verse until one understands that John Lennon’s reference to imagining a world without religion is a statement that is asking us to imagine a world in which there is no organized religion.

If we choose to view the imagine no religion line in the song as being a statement referring to organized religion, and not a direct reference to the very existence of God and Jesus Christ, we find that various passages in The Bible support this very viewpoint. Acts 17:24 states:

The God who made the world and everything in it
is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything.
Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.

Here we have a passage that distinguishes between God and the temples that have been built by various strains of organized religion in the name of God and Jesus Christ. Though we all can come to some level of agreement with this distinction, we currently do not wish to bring life to that distinction by abandoning for good the idea that we are somehow closer to God by being within a religious building or organization. For example, many believe that going to the Vatican is an event that results in a more substantial religious experience. This is not true according to The Bible. You are already exactly where you need to be in terms of being able to get as close as you possibly can to God and Jesus Christ.

John Lennon also asks us in this verse of Imagine to imagine a world with no countries. He demonstrates great vision here as he realized that barriers between cultures, including countries themselves, will dissolve away forever once the Establishment occurs. John Lennon also understood that everyone will have direct access to Jesus Christ once the Establishment is fully functional. This is a concept that is supported by The Bible. Isaiah 54:13 states:

All your children will be taught by the Lord,
and great will be their peace.

Again, in The Gospels, this concept was worth emphasizing once again, as it appears once more in John 6:15:

It is written in the Prophets:
They will all be taught by God.

This biblical passage indicates that each of us will be granted direct access to Jesus Christ with the coming of the Establishment and when that takes place organized religion will disappear.

Let’s turn our attention now to the most controversial, and one of the most functional, verses that John Lennon put forth to the public during his musical career. This verse being referenced to is the opening verse in the song Imagine. Here, those listening to the song are asked to imagine there’s no heaven, and also that there is no hell. It initially appeared that this line’s biblical value was along the same line as the other verses in this song in that what he was solely accomplishing here was the establishment of yet another biblical connection to his lyrics; that he was intending to reflect what is written in The Bible. This is a reasonable conclusion to reach here as The Gospels put forth a very similar concept in passages such as Matthew 24:35 and Luke 21:33:

Heaven and earth will pass away,
but my words will never pass away.

What this biblical passage is saying is that the natural inclination that currently exists within us all to separate apart heaven from earth will go by the wayside once the Establishment occurs. With the Establishment comes the realization that heaven and earth have become one and the same, removing the need for two separate terms.

But the real value of the line imagine there’s no heaven lies beyond being able to show that it is a reflection of The Bible. If we step back a bit here, we should remind ourselves that the real value of the words of the two witnesses, beyond the prophecies that were delivered in numerological and anagram fashion, is that at times they are instructional in nature. That is to say, at times the two witnesses tell us exactly what we must do if we ever decide to consciously participate in the Establishment. This line in Imagine is one of those times.

As has been stated elsewhere in this account of the two witnesses, throughout the time spent gaining an understanding of the songs and concepts put forth by the two witnesses, an in-depth study of The Bible was also going on with an emphasis on those passages directly related to the efforts of the two witnesses. By the time the studying of Imagine took place, it had already been determined that the two witnesses, who appear in The Bible in Revelation 11, came to deliver information vital to the coming to pass of those events taking place in Revelation 12 and 13. [135] Revelation 12 conveys what events must come to pass related to the finding of the tomb of Mary Magdalene, while Revelation 13 addresses the time period that the religion of Islam attains world wide dominance. The prophecies of the two witnesses prove to be critical variables regarding the coming to pass of the passages found in both chapters as their prophecies identify not only where the tomb of Mary Magdalene is located but the prophecies also provide information that allows for the identification and subsequent killing of the beast of Islam.

Studying the words of the two witnesses and The Bible at the same time was of great benefit as it was found that both bodies of works served to strengthen the other. At times it was possible to understand what the two witnesses were saying by applying what was being learned through various biblical passages. At other times an understanding of passages found in The Bible was possible only after incorporating what the two witnesses put forth into those passages.

In other words, this business of relating the works of the two witnesses to The Bible is only able to be done in a very circular fashion. There is no single straight path to take when trying to understand the two witnesses or the impact their prophecies have in terms of understanding of what is going on in The Bible in Revelation 11, 12 & 13.

While studying Revelation 12, progress continued until it was known that Revelation 12 dealt specifically with the finding of the tomb of Mary Magdalene. It was understood that the recovery of the tomb of Mary Magdalene was an event that was going to be a reality-based, tangible, measurable, quantifiable event. However, a problem arose when it came to pinning down the specifics being put forth in Revelation 12 because a literal interpretation of this chapter was leading nowhere. If we look at the characters that appear in Revelation 12 it is easier to understand why this is so:

a woman up in the sky
a red dragon
a person named Michael
angels
an eagle
a serpent

As you can see, several of these characters if taken literally don’t exist. So, how is a person supposed to incorporate these characters into a story that centers on the finding of the tomb of Mary Magdalene and the subsequent identification of her living descendents?

While considering questions such as this it was interesting to see that much of what is happening to these characters in Revelation 12 appears to be taking place in heaven, a place we normally think of as being somewhere away from the earth:

Revelation 12:1:
A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven

Revelation 12:3:
Then another sign appeared in heaven;
an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its head.

Revelation 12:7:
And there was war in heaven,
Michael and his angels fought against the dragon,
and the dragon and his angels fought back.

Revelation 12:8:
But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.

Revelation 12:10:
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:…

Revelation 12:12:
Therefore rejoice you heavens and you who dwell in them!

Based on the high number of times that it is directly referenced this place called heaven and its occupants play a significant role in what is taking place in Revelation 12.

Still, with all of these various types of observations begin made, no real progress was made in regards to applying the individual passages found in Revelation 12 to what was already known about the chapter; that it is an explanation of the events related to the finding of the tomb of Mary Magdalene. How could it be that an earthly event such as the finding of her tomb is related to events apparently taking place far away from us in heaven?

As has been already mentioned, the task of justifying what the two witnesses said by relating it in a meaningful manner to The Bible is primarily a circular effort as each body of work strengthens the other. This proved to be the case here again as it was not possible to resolve the use of the word heaven in Revelation 12 by reading the passages in The Bible. The real breakthrough, in terms of understanding Revelation 12, came one morning as Revelation 12 was being reviewed when the first line of Imagine started to dominate the interpretative process of Revelation 12. That first line of Imagine is, of course:

Imagine there’s no heaven

What was also known at this point was that John and Paul were acting in strict accordance with scripture in the course of being the two witnesses. In light of that, it could not be concluded that we were being told here that we should abandon all belief in God with the phrase imagine there’s no heaven. The phrase imagine there’s no heaven was then considered to be a phrase that was intended to not directly relate to the content of Revelation 12; perhaps the phrase should be considered of value when one applies the phrase to the act of reading and understanding the passages found in Revelation 12. With this shift in perspective the phrase evolved from:

Imagine there’s no heaven

to:

Imagine, when you read The Bible, that there is no heaven.

So, what is John Lennon telling us with this particular line in the song? Eventually it was determined that what John Lennon was saying was that each passage in The Bible, not just those directly referencing heaven, could be taken either literally or symbolically, and a certain unique outcome is realized with either approach. However, in order to understand the passages in The Bible that are related to the two witnesses, you need to approach them in a symbolic manner. In other words, the phrase:

Imagine there’s no heaven

Should be thought of as saying

You will be able to understand
what is written in Revelation 11, 12 and 13
if you approach the contents of these three chapters
from a symbolic point of view.

With everything considered about the information that is contained in the works of the two witnesses, and considering this profound message to be found within Imagine, it is highly unlikely that the song Imagine was conceptualized after the period of prophecy had ended. No, once one understands what is conveyed through the lyrics of Imagine it is reasonable to say that the period of prophecy could not have progressed as it did unless John and Paul had already internalized the essence of what is put forth in the song Imagine.

At this point an adequate level of understanding had been reached and it was possible to move on to another aspect of the two witnesses. The ability to take on additional aspects of the two witnesses was greatly strengthened as a result of studying Imagine.

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